remember, the nra doesn't want the gun banned, but don't want the gun checks at gun shows. how do you keep them out of the people that are violent-- >> there's nothing in the new laws, kate, that's going to prevent, which we all want, another tragedy. but a lot of movement, a lot of hysterihysteria, a lot of-- and andrew cuomo, lives are going to be saved. that's just not true. >> you never hear reasonable explanation, how it's going to have a positive impact. the segment with jessie showed the complete emptiness in this legislation. the most dangerous are the popular ones, handguns and the rifles. they're not on the list, it's easier for the second amendment opponents to go after the big scary looking guns with the cosmetics features that do nothing to enhance the shooting capacity, but it really showed that this is just an intent it to liable guns as scary and dangerous, but they're not, these ridiculous restrictions are not actually going to have an impact in terms of making us any safer and in fact make it it-- >> let me throw it back to leslie. for example, they showed